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# Episode 175: Dollop: The Torture Psychologists
- URL: https://there-might-be-cupcakes-podcast.ghost.io/episode-175-dollop/
- Published: 2017-07-09T21:27:30.000Z
- Updated: 2025-02-03T15:55:52.000Z
- Author: Carla Pettigrew
- Tags: Newsletter, #Migrated-1738597973835, #Import 2025-02-03 15:53

> Dave: Jim said he searched his soul–  
>  
> Gareth: Ugh, did he have a warrant?

<http://traffic.libsyn.com/thedollop/The%5FTorture%5FPsychologists.mp3>

Kubark Manual of Interrogation, [U. S. Army and CIA Interrogation Manuals](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%5FArmy%5Fand%5FCIA%5Finterrogation%5Fmanuals): Just a little light reading in the bathroom

More about Kubark:

> [PRISONER ABUSE: PATTERNS FROM THE PAST](http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB122/)  
>  
> National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 122  
>  
> Cold War U.S. Interrogation Manuals Counseled “Coercive Techniques”  
> Cheney Informed of “Objectionable” Interrogation Guides in 1992  
> “Inconsistent with U.S. Government Policy”  
> National Security Archive Posts CIA Training Manuals from 60s, 80s, and  
> Investigative memos on earlier controversy on human rights abuses  
>  
> For Further Information:  
> Thomas Blanton 202 994-7000  
> Peter Kornbluh 202 994-7116  
>  
> \*\* Updated to include a version of the KUBARK manual declassified as of February 25, 2014 \*\*

[Hague and Geneva Conventions](http://amzn.to/2sEpCFY) by the United States, Navy Department

[Geneva Convention POW Handbook](http://amzn.to/2tXiJDy) by James “Doc” Crabtree

[The Development Of International Humanitarian Law: From The Emancipation Of The Slaves In The United States To The Geneva Conventions](http://amzn.to/2sEIHrv) by

Jonathan H. Kantor

[“Strawberry Fields” at Guantanamo Bay](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawberry%5FFields%5F%28Guantanamo%29)

Vanity Fair: [Guantánamo: An Oral History](http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2012/01/guantanamo-bay-oral-history-201201), January, 2012; [From Gitmo to an American Supermax, The Horrors of Solitary Confinement](http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/01/guantanamo-bay-solitary-confinement), January, 2015

[Brainwashing: The Science of Thought Control](https://bookshop.org/a/6560/9780198798330) by Kathleen Taylor

[Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism: A Study of Brainwashing in China](https://bookshop.org/a/6560/9780807842539) by Robert Jay Lifton (the expert, if you pick one book on mind control, pick this one, you can trust me on this, I have degrees in psychology and counseling don’t’cha know)

[The Rape of the Mind: The Psychology of Thought Control, Menticide, and Brainwashing](https://bookshop.org/a/6560/9781615773763) by Joost A. M. Meerloo

fun with true stories of governmental thought control: [The Men Who Stare at Goats](http://amzn.to/2u7wYWT) by [Jon Ronson](https://there-might-be-cupcakes-podcast.ghost.io/tag/jon-ronson/)

and fun stories about how us v. them thinking starts all this shit: [Them: Adventures with Extremists](https://bookshop.org/a/6560/9780743233217) by Jon Ronson

the infamous Stanford prison experiment (you asked for it): [The Lucifer Effect: Understanding How Good People Turn Evil](http://amzn.to/2tXyNVA) by Philip Zimbardo

Counterpunch: [calling for reform at the APA in wake of Stephen Behnke’s dealings in torture, 2016](https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/06/17/standing-firm-for-reform-at-the-american-psychological-association/)

[false confessions](https://bookshop.org/a/6560/9780770437787)

[Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape (SERE): airforce.com](https://www.airforce.com/careers/detail/survival-evasion-resistance-and-escape-sere)

[Martin Seligman’s books on positive psychology and learned optimism](http://amzn.to/2tx2YSx)

Band names from this episode:

- Momma Frank: amazing [Frank Zappa](https://bookshop.org/a/6560/9780671705725) cover band, often opens for [Zappa Plays Zappa](http://www.amazon.com/Zappa-Plays-Dweezil/dp/B001502LNI/ref=as%5Fli%5Fbk%5Ftl/?tag=bibliothera01-20&linkId=fe60c9287fdbf5b6e1a034b78c580d14&linkCode=ktl)
- Brainwashstorm
- Privatized Torture
- memorysongs

Cultural references from this episode:

- [24](https://bookshop.org/a/6560/0024543554486)
- [The Doors](http://www.amazon.com/Doors-Explicit/dp/B0018B1O7I/ref=as%5Fli%5Fbk%5Ftl/?tag=bibliothera01-20&linkId=d35025e95ca43527a778814594867455&linkCode=ktl)
- [Fear Factor](http://www.amazon.com/Fear-Factor-Season-Joe-Rogan/dp/B000FDE5TY/ref=as%5Fli%5Fbk%5Ftl/?tag=bibliothera01-20&linkId=c14c91a0589b110a4ba16a6ae426f0da&linkCode=ktl)
- [Jay-Z](http://amazon.com/s/ref=as%5Fli%5Fbk%5Ftl/?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Jay-Z&tag=bibliothera01-20&linkId=e7e50edc8c9d1426ad75a0c22dc8d5c0&linkCode=ktl)
- [Lemonade](http://www.amazon.com/Lemonade-Explicit-Beyonce/dp/B01EQGOW8E/ref=as%5Fli%5Fbk%5Ftl/?tag=bibliothera01-20&linkId=f92c0813d314d81a306bdc4f76daaaf8&linkCode=ktl)
- [Weekend at Bernie’s](https://bookshop.org/a/6560/0883904256540)
- [positive psychology movement](http://www.amazon.com/Positive-Psychology-Scientific-Practical-Explorations/dp/1412990629/ref=as%5Fli%5Fbk%5Ftl/?tag=bibliothera01-20&linkId=b8331dc9fc9dad3c50a20dca1173d723&linkCode=ktl)
- [Brainstorm](http://www.amazon.com/Brainstorm-Blu-ray-Christopher-Walken/dp/B007NR9WBG/ref=as%5Fli%5Fbk%5Ftl/?tag=bibliothera01-20&linkId=73e918b5702cb51b3478994f38c3c362&linkCode=ktl)

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